Conversations

Conversations

Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption. Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling. Conversations Live is coming to the stage! Join Sarah Kanowski and Richard Fidler for an unmissable night of unforgettable stories, behind-the-scenes secrets, and surprise guests. Australia’s most-loved podcast — live, up close, and in the moment. Find out more at the Conversations website.
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Dee Salmon explores her personal history, beginning with the whirlwind romance of her parents—an Australian ballet dancer and a Russian dancer—and the challenges of growing up in a rigid, emotionally unpredictable household. She reflects on how these early dynamics shaped her views on love and self-worth during her teenage years. The episode follows Dee's journey through a traumatic car accident and the isolation of COVID-19 lockdowns, periods that ultimately led to a profound period of self-discovery. By breaking unhealthy dating patterns and embracing therapy, she transitioned from a people-pleasing 'cool girl' to a person with strong boundaries, eventually finding a healthy, low-pressure relationship and an expanded definition of romance.

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My mum followed her words. She didn't have a phone number. They didn't have any contact whatsoever. She got on a plane, went to Russia, rocked up in, I think it might've been St. Petersburg at the time.

00:05:36 · Dee recounts the incredible risk her mother took to find her father in Russia without any way to communicate.

He was the head of the household and it was like whatever mood he was in would shape the, you know, we would all kind of walk on eggshells and it would shape how we all felt and went about things.

00:13:21 · The speaker describes the emotional instability caused by her father's unpredictable temperament during her childhood.

I think growing up in an environment in my home where there was a part of me that felt unlovable, love felt conditional.

00:23:00 · The speaker connects her childhood experiences with the feeling that affection was only granted when certain standards were met.

I remember watching that for the first time and just resonating so deeply with it. And if you don't know what it is, they basically talk about like... the trope of the woman who just, whatever the guy wants, you're cool with.

00:34:35 · The speaker identifies with the 'Cool Girl' monologue as a way to describe her previous habit of suppressing her own needs to please men.

I was so happy and content in my life and not looking for a relationship. And I know it's a cliche, but I genuinely think because I was in that headspace, it set us up for the absolute best when we were dating.

00:44:07 · The speaker reflects on how her state of self-contentment influenced the healthy start of her relationship with Darcy.

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